Wednesday, November 9
CNBC Debate - Winners and Losers
If you read my blog you know I really respect Herman Cain, but in doing so I can't pander, this is my honest assessment of the CNBC Debate Wednesday November 9th, 2011.
This has to do with who help themselves or were better than expected vs worse and probably hurt themselves:
Night After Update
Winners:
Newt (A) was as solid as I have seen him. His only bad moment was the idea of 3 hour debates with Obama. Its not about the length its about the format and the stupid questions. I think Newt will benefit the most from tonight's debated.
Romney (B+) is coming out of the shadows I finally saw some fire that might be enough to match up with Obama. However, he clearly is pandering to class warfare with his selective tax cuts and he still ends up confused when he is around healthcare, because he can't say what he believes. That at the wrong moment could cost us the election with Obama. I still think he improved his impression as a candidate even with troublesome stands.
Ron Paul (B) knows economics this was a good debate for him. If you had not heard his terrfying "let Iran have nukes and they will stop hating us" take on forign policy you might think he is a viable option. The absence of foreign policy allowed Ron Paul to look normal.
Bachmann (B) I am not a fan of but, had some solid questions and understood what Cain didn't that you can't keep using your slogans at this point. The core audience is informed and knows the message. Not a Fan, but I think she helped herself.
Survivors:
Santorum (C) He seems like a nice guy. But there is something in his tone and phrasing that makes it sound like he is saying "Really, I am just as good as them" I don't get confidence from him, I get the feeling he is looking for validation. I don't think he helped or hurt himself.
Herman Cain (C-) I love this guy. I love his attitude. I love how he talks about America. I think he started off really well given the vicious attacks on him like none we have seen, maybe even worse than Palin. So I am going to cut him some slack and wait one more debate to reevaluate if he is growing enough to keep my support. But in the second half, he became his own parody with the repeated use of "999" and "bold plan" both brands are now over exposed. I think he did the most damage tonight of anyone that may survive into February.
Put a Fork in Them They are Done:
Huntsman (F) made it clear that when he hits DC he will bend to be accepted like a wet noodle. How clueless is he to pander to Occupy Wall Street. If he doesn't understand his own party, how will he ever understand America. He was done long ago, but after tonight, can we stop inviting him to the debates? Please!!!
Perry (F-) Wow! That may be one of the most decisive ends to a campaign if not a political career I have ever seen. Face it folks, even if he created all the jobs in Texas all by himself, a mistake like what we just saw would hand the election to Obama in a second it would be over. We can't count on him for a single debate win against Obama. Perry ended his campaign tonight, and probably has everyone hoping he doesn't endorse them. I think he should find a Texas issue that needs him to pull out gracefully.
Summary:
This has to do with who help themselves or were better than expected vs worse and probably hurt themselves:
Night After Update
Herman Cain: After writing this I was surprised to see CNBC fawning over Herman Cain and all the positive press he got. But I noted in a college focus group poll Cain dropped out of their top three after debate. People are hungry to know what people think, too many repeated phrases is unsatisfying. Herman is doing well, but he needs to talk about his plan and ideas without the heavy 999 branding, it gets to be too much. I still put Cain 5th because I think while he did well he was at best neutral to his reputation. So he did better than Ron Paul and Michelle Bachmann, but they improved their impression with the audience more.
Rick Perry: I have to say I am in awe of his team, to have spun the mistake into a website asking which federal department visitors wanted to forget is genius, and except for being 30 minutes late with his team sending random email to the show, he was very charming about it this morning on Laura Ingraham's show. He is good talking to people, he needs to learn to do that on stage. I don't think he gets the nomination, but I think his career is in better shape than I thought last night, because of a good team and a coach-able candidate.
Winners:
Newt (A) was as solid as I have seen him. His only bad moment was the idea of 3 hour debates with Obama. Its not about the length its about the format and the stupid questions. I think Newt will benefit the most from tonight's debated.
Romney (B+) is coming out of the shadows I finally saw some fire that might be enough to match up with Obama. However, he clearly is pandering to class warfare with his selective tax cuts and he still ends up confused when he is around healthcare, because he can't say what he believes. That at the wrong moment could cost us the election with Obama. I still think he improved his impression as a candidate even with troublesome stands.
Ron Paul (B) knows economics this was a good debate for him. If you had not heard his terrfying "let Iran have nukes and they will stop hating us" take on forign policy you might think he is a viable option. The absence of foreign policy allowed Ron Paul to look normal.
Bachmann (B) I am not a fan of but, had some solid questions and understood what Cain didn't that you can't keep using your slogans at this point. The core audience is informed and knows the message. Not a Fan, but I think she helped herself.
Survivors:
Santorum (C) He seems like a nice guy. But there is something in his tone and phrasing that makes it sound like he is saying "Really, I am just as good as them" I don't get confidence from him, I get the feeling he is looking for validation. I don't think he helped or hurt himself.
Herman Cain (C-) I love this guy. I love his attitude. I love how he talks about America. I think he started off really well given the vicious attacks on him like none we have seen, maybe even worse than Palin. So I am going to cut him some slack and wait one more debate to reevaluate if he is growing enough to keep my support. But in the second half, he became his own parody with the repeated use of "999" and "bold plan" both brands are now over exposed. I think he did the most damage tonight of anyone that may survive into February.
Put a Fork in Them They are Done:
Huntsman (F) made it clear that when he hits DC he will bend to be accepted like a wet noodle. How clueless is he to pander to Occupy Wall Street. If he doesn't understand his own party, how will he ever understand America. He was done long ago, but after tonight, can we stop inviting him to the debates? Please!!!
Perry (F-) Wow! That may be one of the most decisive ends to a campaign if not a political career I have ever seen. Face it folks, even if he created all the jobs in Texas all by himself, a mistake like what we just saw would hand the election to Obama in a second it would be over. We can't count on him for a single debate win against Obama. Perry ended his campaign tonight, and probably has everyone hoping he doesn't endorse them. I think he should find a Texas issue that needs him to pull out gracefully.
Summary:
- Newt Won, as solid as I have seen him.
- Romney helped his case as being able to beat Obama, but hurt his case for being a solid conservative
- Ron Paul looked sane
- Bachman looked plausible
- Santorum looked needy again
- Cain "999" failed in 2nd half of the debate, but has enough room to recover only with a top notch debate next time.
- Huntsman turned a failed campaign into a joke by pandering to Wall Street protesters
- Perry made it clear he is a ticking debate time-bomb that would re-elect Obama.
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